Translating the symbols ® and ©
Thread poster: Gaeleath Taylor
Gaeleath Taylor
Gaeleath Taylor
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Aug 2, 2021

Hi everyone, just throwing this out there. I have a couple of these symbols (® and ©) on a certificate that I need to translate from Spanish to English, but I don't know whether to include them as is, translate them in brackets (maybe?), write a footnote to explain them, or just leave them out and not include them. What's your advice on this issue? I'm leaning towards not including them or including them as is without translation or footnotes. I mean, they're not words to be translated, and ev... See more
Hi everyone, just throwing this out there. I have a couple of these symbols (® and ©) on a certificate that I need to translate from Spanish to English, but I don't know whether to include them as is, translate them in brackets (maybe?), write a footnote to explain them, or just leave them out and not include them. What's your advice on this issue? I'm leaning towards not including them or including them as is without translation or footnotes. I mean, they're not words to be translated, and even if I were to include them, as far as I know they have pretty much the exact same meaning and recognition on both languages. I'm no very sure though, so any advice would be greatly appreciated.Collapse


 
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
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@Gaeleath Aug 2, 2021

Typographic symbols are not translated.

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Taña Dalglish
Taña Dalglish
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Typographic symbols Aug 2, 2021

I disagree with Teresa. You mentioned more than one usage of the symbols, so perhaps an explanation would be the way to go, thus avoiding repetition. However, the meanings are as follows:

The registered trademark symbol, ®, is a typographic symbol that provides notice that the preceding word or symbol is a trademark or service mark that has been registered with a national trademark office.

The registered trademark symbol, ®, is a typographic symbol that provides n
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I disagree with Teresa. You mentioned more than one usage of the symbols, so perhaps an explanation would be the way to go, thus avoiding repetition. However, the meanings are as follows:

The registered trademark symbol, ®, is a typographic symbol that provides notice that the preceding word or symbol is a trademark or service mark that has been registered with a national trademark office.

The registered trademark symbol, ®, is a typographic symbol that provides notice that the preceding word or symbol is a trademark or service mark that has been registered with a national trademark office. A trademark is a symbol, word, or words legally registered or established by use as representing a company or product.

Unregistered trademarks can instead be marked with the trademark symbol, ™, while unregistered service marks are marked with the service mark symbol, ℠. Ⓒ CIRCLED LATIN CAPITAL LETTER C (HTML Ⓒ ) The copyright symbol, or copyright sign, © (a circled capital letter C for copyright), is the symbol used in copyright notices for works other than sound recordings. The use of the symbol is described by the Universal Copyright Convention.

Translating everything is particularly relevant in the event that it is a sworn translator's statement, which you did not say.

Regards.

[Edited at 2021-08-02 20:19 GMT]
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Gaeleath Taylor
Gaeleath Taylor
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Thank you! Aug 2, 2021

Teresa and Taña, thank you so much for your very prompt response! That was a most excellent explanation. You included TM which I didn't mention, but is (in fact) included in the certificate, which won't be used as a sworn translator's statement, but rather to validate certain studies in a postgraduate program.

I've checked meanings for the symbols in both, the country of origin (Mexico) and the country where the translation will be used (USA), and they are the same, thankfully. So
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Teresa and Taña, thank you so much for your very prompt response! That was a most excellent explanation. You included TM which I didn't mention, but is (in fact) included in the certificate, which won't be used as a sworn translator's statement, but rather to validate certain studies in a postgraduate program.

I've checked meanings for the symbols in both, the country of origin (Mexico) and the country where the translation will be used (USA), and they are the same, thankfully. So I'm inclined to think that I should definitely include them in the translation, in the exact places as were placed in the original source, would that be correct?
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Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
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@Gaeleath Aug 2, 2021

That's what I would do...

 
Adieu
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Ctrl C - Ctrl V Aug 3, 2021

'Nuff said.

 
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
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French to English
Idem Aug 3, 2021

It would be an error to omit them, potentially a serious one. The symbols point to intellectual property rights. It attracts the reader's attention to their existence, or at least that such rights are claimed to exist. The academic world is rife with fiercely acquired and defended rights of this sort. To leave the out could be considered as a serious oversight on the part of a translator.

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