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Malik Beytek (X)
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| In that case, you may want to consider badly written texts in English ...... | Jan 25, 2007 |
Enrique wrote:
".... in this case we wanted to test the waters with a translation one...."
Well then that's that.
And in that case, you might want to consider using badly written texts in English, which would allow English-to-English translation as well, and constitute a further test of skills in translating to other languages.
May the best win, then!!?
| | | | Aurora Humarán (X) 
Argentina
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| Literature & Poetry Forum | Jan 26, 2007 |
Enrique wrote:
We also tried to do literary contests in the (English language) Literature and Poetry forum and for some reason the participation was low.
Enrique
Tried? I did organize one and all participants were really excited. There weren't hundreds of contributions but we had a great time!
Aurora
| | | | Andy Watkinson
Spanien
Local time: 13:18
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| A couple of thoughts | Jan 26, 2007 |
My first reaction to this would be the same as Tim’s.
Ignore it (and it may even go away .
However, this is, it would appear, yet another of those ideas which sporadically appear on ProZ and which have not been sufficiently thought through, as usual.
One of the main objections seems to be that this suggestion excludes that tiny, nay insignificant, group of translators who work into English.
... See more My first reaction to this would be the same as Tim’s.
Ignore it (and it may even go away.
However, this is, it would appear, yet another of those ideas which sporadically appear on ProZ and which have not been sufficiently thought through, as usual.
One of the main objections seems to be that this suggestion excludes that tiny, nay insignificant, group of translators who work into English.
e.g. “Translation contests have been in our plans for a long time”
Just a suggestion: if staff were aware (presumably they were, after such lengthy planning) of this major exclusion, why didn’t they just say so in the first place?
That would have avoided many of the (justifiably) adverse reactions.
Having said that, I also find the following rather off the mark.
“At the same time, many others (me included) are concerned about the effect on the professionalism of Proz's image”
Lexical, just how professional do you believe its image already is, when a picture of a dog/hamster/etc….. ,which fires off answers to every KudoZ question in sight, features permanently on the home page as a “KudoZ Leader” and is very often a translator whose answers I would not touch with the proverbial?
Andy,
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| | | | Abdul Wahab (X)
Pakistan
Local time: 17:18
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| Healthy Activity | Jan 26, 2007 |
It is an excellent idea and a very healthy activity.
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Harry Hermawan
Indonesien
Local time: 19:18
Medlem (2005)
Engelska till Indonesiska
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SITE LOCALIZER | What can I say... | Jan 26, 2007 |
Enrique wrote:
...the site philosophy can be found in the document Sixteen (16) cornerstones of ProZ.com and in particular at points 10 and 11:
10. ProZ.com is an open and welcoming community. ...
11. Site staff members focus their efforts on serving members first and foremost. ...
Regards,
Enrique
An excellent argument!
| | | | | Levels of participation | Jan 26, 2007 |
Aurora Humarán wrote:
Enrique wrote:
We also tried to do literary contests in the (English language) Literature and Poetry forum and for some reason the participation was low.
Enrique
Tried? I did organize one and all participants were really excited. There weren't hundreds of contributions but we had a great time!
Aurora
Of course it was a great contest, and I was one of the happy participants. What I mean is that there were 14 contributions in this global contest and, in contrast, the similar contest you organized in the Spanish forum had 54 contributions. I mean, the level of participation was higher at a sub-community level.
Regards
Enrique
| | | | Aurora Humarán (X)
Argentina
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Enrique wrote:
What I mean is that there were 14 contributions in this global contest and, in contrast, the similar contest you organized in the Spanish forum had 54 contributions.
Enrique
Numbers, which do not necessarily imply that the contest with more contributions was better and which should not discourage a new one.
I really did not agree to the "We tried..." (we tried... but...). The contest was a very real one, not an attempt.
| | | | Aurora Humarán (X)
Argentina
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| Spanish Forum | Jan 26, 2007 |
Enrique wrote:
at a sub-community level.
Enrique
Yes, but a very special sub-community, which represented, by far, the most active community of the site. We even wrote a collective novel triggered by a blank thread I opened.
What I mean to say is that the SF community was much used to those activities, while there had not been so many similar experiments with participants from the whole site. (I can only remember the Haiku contest which had almost 40 contributions).
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Sarah Ponting
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Local time: 13:18
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| No need to tarnish its image yet further | Jan 26, 2007 |
Andy Watkinson wrote:
just how professional do you believe its image already is, when a picture of a dog/hamster/etc….. ,which fires off answers to every KudoZ question in sight, features permanently on the home page as a “KudoZ Leader” and is very often a translator whose answers I would not touch with the proverbial?
Quite, so do we really want to make it appear even more unprofessional?
Patricia Lane wrote:
If Proz, members or users wish to go down that route, then at least ensure that those pages are not indexed! Create a separate section on the site that keeps it "private".
The written word lasts. Make sure you won't have any regrets a few years down the road.
I agree with Patricia: it would give the site a thoroughly unprofessional image. Like many others, I voted against the idea in the poll the other day, and was horrified to see that it's already being implemented. Do the views of those who voted against count for nothing? Not only do I think that it would most definitely NOT be "fun" (as described in the poll question), but I am convinced that it's potentially harmful. I for one am cringing at the mere thought of this terrible and embarassing gimmick, and I sincerely hope that the staff will reconsider it. I'm afraid I'm already regretting having renewed my membership
Sarah
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Local time: 17:48
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| the best dentist | Jan 26, 2007 |
I lked the idea of the member who brought in the comparison with a dentist.
To make it more hilarious, I would liken it to a contest among dentists - to see who extracts the tooth the best.What a painful idea? And that too, only for registered dentists . Moreover, no English dentists are allowed. Cheers!!!!
| | | | transparx
USA
Local time: 07:18
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Sarah Ponting wrote:
Andy Watkinson wrote:
just how professional do you believe its image already is, when a picture of a dog/hamster/etc….. ,which fires off answers to every KudoZ question in sight, features permanently on the home page as a “KudoZ Leader” and is very often a translator whose answers I would not touch with the proverbial?
Quite, so do we really want to make it appear even more unprofessional?
Sarah
I knew nothing about the poll until I happened to see the thread today, but I must say, as I already have, that I see nothing either embarassing or unprofessional about this.
I don't think I will participate: I'm kind of busy and, besides, I'm not too fond of contexts and games, but I really don't see why this would be harmful.
To be honest, I had to stop myself from responding to Andy's post, but since you have just highlighted what others had seemed to want to ignore, I am no longer able to stop myself.
Well, I don't see what the connection is between the picture of a dog or hamster and the professional image of this site. I used to have a picture of my dog on my profile page --actually, I think he looks better that I do-- but never felt that would in any way diminish my own professional image or that of the site as a whole. But what is all this prescriptivism when it comes to professional appearance? Would anyone perhaps want to suggest that we all wear the same uniform? Why would having the picture of a dog be less professional than having no picture at all? I understand that some outsourcers may not be very bright, but I am sure they all know that dogs and hamsters do not translate.
I often talk about appearance --professional and personal-- when I teach sociolinguistics. There are a lot of interesting analogies to be drawn. I'd like to cut this short, though...let me just say that in class we inevitably end up talking -though briefly- about the fact that, in general, con artists do look very professional!
| | | | Sarah Ponting
Italien
Local time: 13:18
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| Dogs and hamsters | Jan 26, 2007 |
transparx wrote:
Well, I don't see what the connection is between the picture of a dog or hamster and the professional image of this site.
Hi, I assure you that I have nothing against anyone using pictures of dogs or hamsters in their profile; I was simply agreeing with Andy on the impression conveyed by those who answer every Kudoz question in sight, regardless of their knowledge in the area. You need only take a look at the Kudoz area to acknowledge this fact.
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| Totally unprofessional | Jan 26, 2007 |
Sarah Ponting wrote:
I agree with Patricia: it would give the site a thoroughly unprofessional image. Like many others, I voted against the idea in the poll the other day, and was horrified to see that it's already being implemented. Do the views of those who voted against count for nothing? Not only do I think that it would most definitely NOT be "fun" (as described in the poll question), but I am convinced that it's potentially harmful. I for one am cringing at the mere thought of this terrible and embarassing gimmick, and I sincerely hope that the staff will reconsider it. I'm afraid I'm already regretting having renewed my membership
Sarah
I wholeheartedly agree. And I fail to see the motivation behind such an idea. Wouldn't the time and energy (and therefore member dues) that will be spent for organizing this "contest" be better spent doing something useful on the site, like overhauling the KOG, for instance?
I also share in Sarah's cringe, literally. Let's all have "fun" elsewhere, and at least try to keep this site a semblance of professionalism.
Jennifer
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| | | | Galina F
USA
Local time: 07:18
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| I like the idea | Jan 26, 2007 |
And I'd like to take part in this contest. It would help me to feel more involved in the ProZ life. The literary translation is something I enjoy very much and I would try to do my best.
Things seem simple to me - if I would win I would be very happy and proud if not - I would humble myself, be upset for some time and would go further.
Thank you, Florencia:)
Best wishes,
Galina
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makes me cringe... and I agree it makes Proz look even more unprofessional. But if the site is happy with it... you can bet that no seasoned professional will take part in it.
Giovanni
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