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Laurent KRAULAND (X) 
France
Local time: 11:47
French to German
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| Point taken, Jeff | Jun 6, 2010 |
Jeff Whittaker wrote:
By affiliate I meant that he received some kind of commission from Systran for the sale of its products (like Amazon affiliates) or was able to purchase the product from Systran at a discounted rate and then resell it to "customers". I never considered the possibility that victims would get no software at all and/or pirated software for their money.
I hope that Systran will send him a cease and desist letter.
I hope so too. However the legal difficulties are great as this entity seems to act under different names (we do not believe for a second that the contact information could be genuine, do we?).
Due diligence is asked for. And software should be only purchased through its publisher or through an official reseller identified as such.
I cannot remember where Jeff Allen made this comment, but he said that authorised dealers/resellers have to sell the same software as the one offered directly by Systran. Jeff?
There is no such thing as a "customised Systran version", sold on behalf of this publisher.
[Edited at 2010-06-06 04:18 GMT]
[Edited at 2010-06-06 09:29 GMT]
| | | | Jeff Allen
France
Local time: 11:47
Multiplelanguages
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| Here is the link to my explanation about Systran packages and reselling | Jun 6, 2010 |
With regard to the items in quotes below, go to page 1 of this thread, in the 4th post (http://www.proz.com/forum/internet_for_translators/112609-scammers_requesting_to_buy_systran_language_software.html#1038997).
There, I provide a link to another thread here on Proz which is covers this identical proble... See more With regard to the items in quotes below, go to page 1 of this thread, in the 4th post (http://www.proz.com/forum/internet_for_translators/112609-scammers_requesting_to_buy_systran_language_software.html#1038997).
There, I provide a link to another thread here on Proz which is covers this identical problem, and in which I explained all of this.
Systran doesn't work with dodgy companies. Everything I've seen written on this topic in this thread and the other one where I wrote in clearly that this is dodgy (emails, company names, contact names, are all changing all the time)
I am not a reseller of Systran, but having been a former employee in a role working closely with the resellers and knowing well how Systran distributes their software (list of distributors on their website), I wouldn't respond to any email claiming this "special" deal.
The only type of special customized version you could get is one which extra specialized/user dictionariaries in Systran format which can simply be attached or de-attached.
But those are added value modules, so it wouldn't make the software cheaper, but actually more costly.
So the best thing is to only work with Systran and their official distribution channels that are clearly stated on their website, and through other reputable sites like here at Proz where it is obvious that large volume purchases are made (for many different translation tools). Anything else is questionable.
Jeff
Jeff Whittaker wrote:
By affiliate I meant that he received some kind of commission from Systran for the sale of its products (like Amazon affiliates) or was able to purchase the product from Systran at a discounted rate and then resell it to "customers". I never considered the possibility that victims would get no software at all and/or pirated software for their money.
I hope that Systran will send him a cease and desist letter.
Laurent KRAULAND wrote:
I hope so too. However the legal difficulties are great as this entity seems to act under different names (we do not believe for a second that the contact information could be genuine, do we?).
Due diligence is asked for. And software should be only purchased through its publisher or through an official reseller identified as such.
I cannot know where Jeff Allen made this comment, but he said that authorised dealers/resellers have to sell the same software as the one offered directly by Systran. Jeff?
There is no such thing as a "customised Systran version", sold on behalf of this publisher.
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| | | | BrenElKha (X)
United States
Local time: 04:47
English to Spanish
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| is it a real agency??? | Jun 27, 2010 |
My dear colleagues,
I feel quite confussed because it sounds 100% scam! but this agency seems to be a prestigious one. So, I wonder if this agency is not a good cup of tea or someone is faking to be one (cloned).
Thank you in advance.
Best regards,
Brenda
Dear Brenda, Thanks for your response. Your specailtie ... See moreMy dear colleagues,
I feel quite confussed because it sounds 100% scam! but this agency seems to be a prestigious one. So, I wonder if this agency is not a good cup of tea or someone is faking to be one (cloned).
Thank you in advance.
Best regards,
Brenda
Dear Brenda,
Thanks for your response.
Your specailties and rates are okay with us.
I"ll briefly give you details about the job then you can
choose to continue or not.We have a long term project for
translations and the topic
areas are:Business,Medical,Legal,Technical,Humanities,History,
Arts,Politics,Economics,I.T,Biology,Information technology
e.t,c
we can offer as much as 50,000
words 4 days in a week depending on how much work you can handle.And because of
the kind of companies and the kind of project we are doing.We also require that
you get Systran software(Business version).Even as you start work and
we can send one for you at
discount rate or you can get it by your self from any other source
.We pay translators twice a month by Westernunion,Paypal and
Banktransfer.I"ll be expecting your feedback on this so we an start
the
process.Thanks
Regards,
Equality TRANSLATION
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| | | | | Another scammer | Jul 9, 2010 |
Today I received this email. First, I searched on the web and I verified that the agency existed. So, I was glad to I sent my CV and rates to them.
Fortunately, while serching the web for getting the Systran software free, I come across this forum. I think is the same person who uses different names of translation agencies to sell this product, because PRIME TRANSLATIONS agency does exist but I suppose Sharon Prime is unaware that someone is using her agency's name.
First emai... See more Today I received this email. First, I searched on the web and I verified that the agency existed. So, I was glad to I sent my CV and rates to them.
Fortunately, while serching the web for getting the Systran software free, I come across this forum. I think is the same person who uses different names of translation agencies to sell this product, because PRIME TRANSLATIONS agency does exist but I suppose Sharon Prime is unaware that someone is using her agency's name.
First email:
We are currently in need of English to Spanish translators.If you"ll like to work with us,Please indicate by
Sending us your CV and let us know your rates and specialties.Thanks
Regards,
Project Manager
Equality Translation Company
Second email:
Thanks for your response.
Your specailties and rates are okay with us.
I"ll briefly give you details about the job then you can
choose to continue or not.We have a long term project for
translations and the topic
areas are:Business,Medical,Legal,Technical,Humanities,History,
Arts,Politics,Economics,I.T,Biology,Information technology
e.t,c
we can offer as much as 50,000
words 4 days in a week depending on how much work you can handle.And because of
the kind of companies and the kind of project we are doing.We also require that
you get Systran software(Business version).Even as you start work and
we can send one for you at
discount rate or you can get it by your self from any other source
.We pay translators twice a month by Westernunion,Paypal and
Banktransfer.I"ll be expecting your feedback on this so we an start
the
process.Thanks
Regards,
PRIME TRANSLATION
And last but not least
Dear Gabriela
Thanks for your reply.Your specialties is okay with us.It is necessary to have Systran software.Please note that the required tool is Systran business version and the cost is $389 but if you"ll like to get it from us we can offer it to you at a discount of $290.Once you have it we"ll get you started.It is not compulsary that you must get the tool from us yoo can get it from elsewhere if you wish.Let me know if this is suitable for you.Thanks
Regards,
PRIME TRANSLATION
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Gabriela Anselmi
Certified Eng>Spa Translator
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| The same situation | Aug 21, 2010 |
Nathalie Reis wrote:
A new agency has contacted me and will supply me with regular work if I buy the Systran Business Translator software from them (at a very good discount!). What do you think? Has anyone got experience with Systran? What do you recommend?
Thanks you for your replies.
Nathalie,
The same happened to me a few months ago!!!! Unbelievable!!!! Exactly the same mail body. But I didn't accept it.
Silvana
| | | | An_drey
Ukraine
Local time: 12:47
English to Russian
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| The same offer from another "client" | Aug 27, 2010 |
I received the same offer with large volume job, when I purchase Systran with good discount. But the "client" calls Prime Translations.
When I wrote that I have Systran and can start to work, nobody contacted me
| | | | Olga Miller
United States
Local time: 05:47
Member (2007)
English to Russian
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| Padena Translation INC; STEVE PARK | Aug 27, 2010 |
I received this email today, from Padena Translation INC; STEVE PARK:
We are currently in need of English to Russian translators.If you"ll
like to work with us,Please indicate by
Sending us your CV and let us know your rates and specialties.
Thanks
Regards,
Steve
Padena Translation INC.
A copy of the email was also addresses to 6-7 other people/agencies (in different countries, judging by the email addresses). This Steve Park did not... See more I received this email today, from Padena Translation INC; STEVE PARK:
We are currently in need of English to Russian translators.If you"ll
like to work with us,Please indicate by
Sending us your CV and let us know your rates and specialties.
Thanks
Regards,
Steve
Padena Translation INC.
A copy of the email was also addresses to 6-7 other people/agencies (in different countries, judging by the email addresses). This Steve Park did not even bother to 'hide' the emails of the people/agencies he CC'd
The only sensible thing to do is NOT to reply to STEVE PARK, but warn the other people that you see have received copies of the same email that this is a scam (give them a link to this forum/discussion.
That was exactly what I did; I hope no one falls for this scam.
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| | | | | Structured fraud | Aug 28, 2010 |
This type of scam is not special these days. I remember the Sub-prime loan financial crisis last year. The financial facility has been designed in structured notes to trigger crisis in certain conditions. Our translation service scam also faces with a similar situation. I was told to translate some bond certificates to get shares of the payable amount. The cheating steps are far deep in structure like a detective movie. I suggest to suppress greed when meet with what we should refer to as "Systr... See more This type of scam is not special these days. I remember the Sub-prime loan financial crisis last year. The financial facility has been designed in structured notes to trigger crisis in certain conditions. Our translation service scam also faces with a similar situation. I was told to translate some bond certificates to get shares of the payable amount. The cheating steps are far deep in structure like a detective movie. I suggest to suppress greed when meet with what we should refer to as "Systran software scammers."
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Luca Tutino
Italy
Member (2002)
English to Italian
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| Report the address to paypal | Aug 28, 2010 |
Eduard Pascariu wrote: And this is the paypal account they'd like your money in ) [email protected]
I have just seen this message now. My-be Eduard should report the above address (and any other address used for the same sake) to [email protected] (with a copy of the email message). Who receives a request for payment from this person including a paypal account, should report the account as a possible spoofer as soon as possible.
I know that scam and phishing are not necessarily the same, however the guy is subreptitiously trying to get money AND personal information.
Luca
| | | | Maria_SH
Russian Federation
Local time: 12:47
Russian to English
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| it's not only paypal | Aug 28, 2010 |
It's not only paypal already. They asked me to send 120$ to some guy via Western Union. Because the easiest way to get Systran in Valencia (Spain) is to have it delivered from Nigeria, sure.
| | | | Oksana Kondakova
United States
Local time: 05:47
Member (2010)
English to Russian
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| the same e-mail | Aug 30, 2010 |
Brenda Galván wrote: My dear colleagues, I feel quite confussed because it sounds 100% scam! but this agency seems to be a prestigious one. So, I wonder if this agency is not a good cup of tea or someone is faking to be one (cloned). Thank you in advance. Best regards, Brenda Dear Brenda,
Thanks for your response.
Your specailties and rates are okay with us.
I"ll briefly give you details about the job then you can
choose to continue or not.We have a long term project for
translations and the topic
areas are:Business,Medical,Legal,Technical,Humanities,History,
Arts,Politics,Economics,I.T,Biology,Information technology
e.t,c
we can offer as much as 50,000
words 4 days in a week depending on how much work you can handle.And because of
the kind of companies and the kind of project we are doing.We also require that
you get Systran software(Business version).Even as you start work and
we can send one for you at
discount rate or you can get it by your self from any other source
.We pay translators twice a month by Westernunion,Paypal and
Banktransfer.I"ll be expecting your feedback on this so we an start
the
process.Thanks
Regards,
Equality TRANSLATION
I received the same two days ago. Different daily capacity and different signature. Scam.
I've also found some info on it here http://translationtimes.blogspot.com/2009/06/its-scam-daimond-translations.html
| | | | | I have received the same message for translation into Romanian | Sep 12, 2010 |
The same words unless the price per word.
The same offer to buy a professional Systran software.
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jyuan_us
United States
Local time: 05:47
Member (2005)
English to Chinese
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| Why do people keep reporting they have received the same email? | Sep 12, 2010 |
Of course the scammer will target as many people as possible. I found it meaningless to report your having received the same email here.
Just remove the email. That's all.
| | | | argenillini
United States
Local time: 05:47
English to Spanish
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| Prime Translations | Oct 26, 2010 |
So I guess Padena has become Prime Translation.
Just got the same text.
Thanks for your reply
Your specialties and rates are okay with us.
I"ll briefly give you details about the job then you can
choose to continue or not.We have a long term project for
translations and the topic
areas are:Business,Medical,Legal,Technical,Humanities,History,
Arts,Politics,Economics,I.T
e.t,c
we can offer as much as 4000
words 4 days in a week d... See more So I guess Padena has become Prime Translation.
Just got the same text.
Thanks for your reply
Your specialties and rates are okay with us.
I"ll briefly give you details about the job then you can
choose to continue or not.We have a long term project for
translations and the topic
areas are:Business,Medical,Legal,Technical,Humanities,History,
Arts,Politics,Economics,I.T
e.t,c
we can offer as much as 4000
words 4 days in a week depending on how much work you can handle.And because of
the kind of companies and the kind of project we are doing.We also require that
you get Systran software(Business version).Even as you start work and
we can send one for you at
good discount rate or you can get it by your self from a shop close to
you.We pay translators twice a month by Westernunion,Paypal and
Banktransfer.I"ll be expecting your feedback on this so we an start
the
process.Thanks
Regards,
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| | | | | And again...Prime Translations | Nov 6, 2010 |
1st mail:
We are currently in need of English to Spanish translators.If you"ll
like to work with us,Please indicate by
Sending us your CV and let us know your rates and specialties.
Thanks
Regards,
Jenny
Prime Translation INC.
2nd mail:
Dear Agustina,
Thanks for your reply
Your specialties and rates are okay with us.
I"ll briefly give you details about the job then you can... See more 1st mail:
We are currently in need of English to Spanish translators.If you"ll
like to work with us,Please indicate by
Sending us your CV and let us know your rates and specialties.
Thanks
Regards,
Jenny
Prime Translation INC.
2nd mail:
Dear Agustina,
Thanks for your reply
Your specialties and rates are okay with us.
I"ll briefly give you details about the job then you can
choose to continue or not.We have a long term project for
translations and the topic
areas are:Business,Medical,Legal,Technical,Humanities,History,
Arts,Politics,Economics,I.T
e.t,c
we can offer as much as 4000
words 4 days in a week depending on how much work you can handle.And because of
the kind of companies and the kind of project we are doing.We also require that
you get Systran software(Business version).Even as you start work and
we can send one for you at
good discount rate or you can get it by your self from a shop close to
you.We pay translators twice a month by Westernunion,Paypal and
Banktransfer.I"ll be expecting your feedback on this so we an start
the
process.Thanks
Regards,
Jenny
3rd mail:
Dear Agustina,
Your output is okay with us.Please note that the required tool is Systran business (Enterprenuel version)7.0.The cost is $389 but if you"ll like to get it from us we can offer it to you at a discount of 290.Once you have it we will get you started with the job.I look forward to work with you.Thanks
Regards,
Jenny
They don't even bother to correct mistakes in the text.
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