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Some postings call for direct contact. Why??
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d_murat (X)
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Apr 2, 2003

Nowadays, some postings fly around Proz, saying \"direct offer to email address\" or \"offers on Proz unacceptable\" why??
 
Boyan Kostadinov
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What are you reffering to? Apr 2, 2003

What exactly are you reffering to? Can you please provide us with more detailed information?
 
d_murat (X)
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See Apr 2, 2003

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On 2003-04-02 16:57, boyank wrote:

What excaltly are you reffering to? Can you please provide us with more detailed information?





See!



http://www.proz.com/job?id=34421
 
d_murat (X)
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Or see Apr 2, 2003

http://www.proz.com/job?id=34143





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On 2003-04-02 16:57, boyank wrote:

What excaltly are you reffering to? Can you please provide us with more detailed information?
 
d_murat (X)
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See below Apr 2, 2003

http://www.proz.com/job?id=34143



http://www.proz.com/job?id=34421
 
Ralf Lemster
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ProZ.com = open platform Apr 2, 2003

Hi Murat (?) and Boyan,

This obviously refers to job offers posted where the outsourcer explicitly excludes the posting of bids via ProZ.com. While there is some criticism regarding this, note that this is in line with ProZ.com site rules:

www.proz.com/?sp=faq#jobs_passed.



One of the reason why outsourcers sometimes indicate their preference in rather clear (albeit less d... See more
Hi Murat (?) and Boyan,

This obviously refers to job offers posted where the outsourcer explicitly excludes the posting of bids via ProZ.com. While there is some criticism regarding this, note that this is in line with ProZ.com site rules:

www.proz.com/?sp=faq#jobs_passed.



One of the reason why outsourcers sometimes indicate their preference in rather clear (albeit less diplomatic) terms is that sometimes bidders simply don\'t read the posting in sufficient detail...



Where moderators usually draw the line is where the job posted is obviously not genuine, as was the case yesterday (or was it the day before) when someone posted a \"job\" that was only designed to earn some clicks on a rather \"spammy\" site, but wasn\'t even reachable through the email address specified. If you suspect something along these lines, please contact the moderator for the language pair concerned, or one of the coordinators identified on the moderators\' list. TIA!



Best regards, Ralf

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d_murat (X)
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Thanks Apr 2, 2003

Thanks Ralf,

But does it not mean that the Proz users do not trust in the Proz professionals, even the platinums?



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On 2003-04-02 17:07, Lemster wrote:

Hi Murat (?) and Boyan,

This obviously refers to job offers posted where the outsourcer explicitly excludes the posting of bids via ProZ.com. While there is some criticism regarding this, note that this is in line with ProZ.com site rule... See more
Thanks Ralf,

But does it not mean that the Proz users do not trust in the Proz professionals, even the platinums?



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On 2003-04-02 17:07, Lemster wrote:

Hi Murat (?) and Boyan,

This obviously refers to job offers posted where the outsourcer explicitly excludes the posting of bids via ProZ.com. While there is some criticism regarding this, note that this is in line with ProZ.com site rules:

www.proz.com/?sp=faq#jobs_passed.



One of the reason why outsourcers sometimes indicate their preference in rather clear (albeit less diplomatic) terms is that sometimes bidders simply don\'t read the posting in sufficient detail...



Where moderators usually draw the line is where the job posted is obviously not genuine, as was the case yesterday (or was it the day before) when someone posted a \"job\" that was only designed to earn some clicks on a rather \"spammy\" site, but wasn\'t even reachable through the email address specified. If you suspect something along these lines, please contact the moderator for the language pair concerned, or one of the coordinators identified on the moderators\' list. TIA!



Best regards, Ralf



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Ralf Lemster
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I wouldn't say that Apr 2, 2003

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On 2003-04-02 17:12, d_murat wrote:

Thanks Ralf,

But does it not mean that the Proz users do not trust in the Proz professionals, even the platinums?



I must admit I can\'t follow you there - if they didn\'t trust ProZ.com members, they probably wouldn\'t post on the site. This preference can have various reasons, most of which are perfectly legitimate. For instance, they might use a job-... See more
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On 2003-04-02 17:12, d_murat wrote:

Thanks Ralf,

But does it not mean that the Proz users do not trust in the Proz professionals, even the platinums?



I must admit I can\'t follow you there - if they didn\'t trust ProZ.com members, they probably wouldn\'t post on the site. This preference can have various reasons, most of which are perfectly legitimate. For instance, they might use a job-specific email address to filter incoming applications.



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d_murat (X)
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Thanks again, but Apr 2, 2003

There is somehing that still needs explanation. In some specific language pairs (like Tur-Eng), one sees many professionals (platinum!).

Then, may I be right to think that everybody may be a Platinum member when they pay USD 120.

May it be the reason of such postings \"no offer through Proz\"?



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On 2003-04-02 17:32, Lemster wrote:

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There is somehing that still needs explanation. In some specific language pairs (like Tur-Eng), one sees many professionals (platinum!).

Then, may I be right to think that everybody may be a Platinum member when they pay USD 120.

May it be the reason of such postings \"no offer through Proz\"?



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On 2003-04-02 17:32, Lemster wrote:

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On 2003-04-02 17:12, d_murat wrote:

Thanks Ralf,

But does it not mean that the Proz users do not trust in the Proz professionals, even the platinums?



I must admit I can\'t follow you there - if they didn\'t trust ProZ.com members, they probably wouldn\'t post on the site. This preference can have various reasons, most of which are perfectly legitimate. For instance, they might use a job-specific email address to filter incoming applications.



Best regards, Ralf

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Evert DELOOF-SYS
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Actually, there might be several good reasons for this Apr 2, 2003

I sometimes outsource jobs myself thru ProZ and prefer people to contact me in private -especially when larger & more difficult jobs are concerned- because this way I can better manage the replies and allocate CV\'s etc to specific folders immediately.



We also shouldn\'t forget that once an outsourcer closes a job, all information disappears.

As I often store the names and coordinates of members with interesting CVs (for future assignments), it would take me ages i... See more
I sometimes outsource jobs myself thru ProZ and prefer people to contact me in private -especially when larger & more difficult jobs are concerned- because this way I can better manage the replies and allocate CV\'s etc to specific folders immediately.



We also shouldn\'t forget that once an outsourcer closes a job, all information disappears.

As I often store the names and coordinates of members with interesting CVs (for future assignments), it would take me ages if I had to work from the ProZ job board.


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Ralf Lemster
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Attempt to explain Apr 3, 2003

Hi again,

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There is somehing that still needs explanation. In some specific language pairs (like Tur-Eng), one sees many professionals (platinum!).

Then, may I be right to think that everybody may be a Platinum member when they pay USD 120.



Exactly. For more info on what Platinum membersh... See more
Hi again,

Quote:


There is somehing that still needs explanation. In some specific language pairs (like Tur-Eng), one sees many professionals (platinum!).

Then, may I be right to think that everybody may be a Platinum member when they pay USD 120.



Exactly. For more info on what Platinum membership is about, search the forums and look here: www.proz.com/?sp=info/prem



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May it be the reason of such postings \"no offer through Proz\"?



Sorry, but I don\'t get what you mean. Can you explain?



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