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Jessica Noyes 
USA
Local time: 06:22
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My new Toshiba laptop does not have the keys I am used to across the top: F1, F2, and so on. I used them especially to access the Thesaurus in Word 2003 (shift F7) and to switch from all caps to no caps to some caps and back (shift F3). I really don't know how to access these features from this new keyboard, or from Word 2003. I would appreciate any help.
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What exact model is your new Toshiba? I've never heard of modern laptops that haven't got function keys. Even netbooks and laptops from Apple have them.
Don't you have an Fn key on the lower left corner of your keyboard? That key is often used to toggle between the laptop own functions (for instance for adjusting the sound level, dimming the display etc.) and the general F-key used in many applications.
| | | | | Take a closer look, perhaps... | Jul 7, 2012 |
Are you sure they aren't there? I thought my laptop was missing these keys as well, but when I took a closer look, I found that the F1, F2, etc. were printed in very small letters.
| | | | neilmac
Spanien
Local time: 12:22
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I bought Toshiba Satellite last year and it has F keys. Maybe your model has done something slick with them? Their forums are usually quite helpful, but I can't find any queries resembling yours among all the function key-related comments.
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Tony M
Frankrike
Local time: 12:22
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SITE LOCALIZER | Within Word 2003 | Jul 7, 2012 |
I can't help you with the F keys, but don't personally use them for those sort of Word functions.
However, you can add custom buttons to the/a Word toolbar for the functions you mention — I have done this for those functions I use most often (and cleared out some of the other buttons I don't ever use!)
But take care: these changes, which can take a little time to set up, will be stored in your normal.dot template, so it would be a wise precaution for you to maintain an up-... See more I can't help you with the F keys, but don't personally use them for those sort of Word functions.
However, you can add custom buttons to the/a Word toolbar for the functions you mention — I have done this for those functions I use most often (and cleared out some of the other buttons I don't ever use!)
But take care: these changes, which can take a little time to set up, will be stored in your normal.dot template, so it would be a wise precaution for you to maintain an up-to-date backup copy of this file so that you can easily revert to all your settings in the event that you should need to delete the normal.dot file (which is sadly a depressingly frequent requirement in Word). ▲ Collapse
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Jessica Noyes wrote: My new Toshiba laptop does not have the keys I am used to across the top: F1, F2, and so on.
Did they disappear before of after the purchase?
Where were you during the purchase?
Sometimes, things with buttons are sold with small bound pieces of paper with some letters on them giving a clue what to do in case of unexpected discoveries like missing buttons. These pieces of paper are often referred to as User Manual.
I guess there is a way to get your favorite functions out of that piece of plastic.
However, you should have checked it before the purchase....
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| | | | LEXpert
USA
Local time: 05:22
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Kroatiska till Engelska
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I've never heard of a laptop, notebook or even a netbook without function keys... If you have any way to post a link to a photo of the keyboard in question, it might be helpful for us.
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KKastenhuber
Österrike
Local time: 12:22
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Sergei Leshchinsky wrote:
Jessica Noyes wrote: My new Toshiba laptop does not have the keys I am used to across the top: F1, F2, and so on.
Did they disappear before of after the purchase?
Where were you during the purchase?
Sometimes, things with buttons are sold with small bound pieces of paper with some letters on them giving a clue what to do in case of unexpected discoveries like missing buttons. These pieces of paper are often referred to as User Manual.
I guess there is a way to get your favorite functions out of that piece of plastic.
However, you should have checked it before the purchase.... [Редактировалось 2012-07-07 08:57 GMT]
Why would anyone waste their time replying to a fellow translator's polite request for help in such a rude way!?
@Jessica: Are they missing altogether or do they maybe just not have their own key?
| | | | | Irony, maybe. But not rude. | Jul 7, 2012 |
KKastenhuber wrote:
Why would anyone waste their time replying to a fellow translator's polite request for help in such a rude way!?
I wouldn't like to speak for Sergei, but IMVHO it's slight irony, accompanied with smilies that should clearly indicate this.
The point is that many users will ask questions first and then explore the documentation shipped with a product (be it software or hardware) second.
Anyway, a model number or a picture would help here a great deal. I have just browsed the entire Toshiba NB portfolio and haven't found any model with missing F1–F12 keys, although in some models these keys use very small script for F1–F12.
I know this is a dumb question, but could it be that you overlooked them, Jessica?
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| | | | KKastenhuber
Österrike
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Stanislav Pokorny wrote:
KKastenhuber wrote:
Why would anyone waste their time replying to a fellow translator's polite request for help in such a rude way!?
I wouldn't like to speak for Sergei, but IMVHO it's slight irony, accompanied with smilies that should clearly indicate this.
The point is that many users will ask questions first and then explore the documentation shipped with a product (be it software or hardware) second.
Anyway, a model number or a picture would help here a great deal. I have just browsed the entire Toshiba NB portfolio and haven't found any model with missing F1–F12 keys, although in some models these keys use very small script for F1–F12.
I know this is a dumb question, but could it be that you overlooked them, Jessica? [Upraveno: 2012-07-07 13:08 GMT]
IMHO the irony is precisely what makes it sound so offending, and the smilies aren't really helping there.
Anyways, back on topic, I'm curious now.
| | | | Rolf Keller
Tyskland
Local time: 12:22
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| Fellow translators should ask like fellow translators | Jul 7, 2012 |
KKastenhuber wrote:
a fellow translator's polite request for help
A polite request is a request that has been carefully thought-out. Twice if need be. Unless it comes from a paying customer.
"My Ford car has no light switch, but I need the car for visits to London and France." Argh. Why should one waste his or her time and ask for, or think about, the type of car?
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Jessica Noyes
USA
Local time: 06:22
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Spanska till Engelska
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TOPIC STARTER | You are all correct, and I was wrong. Thank you very much. | Jul 7, 2012 |
I do see them now in tiny letters, as Amel and others kindly pointed out. My eyesight is not what it once was.
As to not reading the manual, let me tell you about how I came to purchase this laptop last week. I was in the middle of a complicated job one evening and dropped my other laptop -- a Lenovo (that I had carefully researched) and it was inert. I had my next deadline at 1 p.m. as part of a long complicated project, and I was visiting in a small village in Canada near the US bo... See more I do see them now in tiny letters, as Amel and others kindly pointed out. My eyesight is not what it once was.
As to not reading the manual, let me tell you about how I came to purchase this laptop last week. I was in the middle of a complicated job one evening and dropped my other laptop -- a Lenovo (that I had carefully researched) and it was inert. I had my next deadline at 1 p.m. as part of a long complicated project, and I was visiting in a small village in Canada near the US border. I got up at dawn, crossed into the US going through formalities, and went to the only store in that similarly small town that was open and would have a laptop -- unfortunately a Walmart. I picked out the likeliest laptop I could find, re-crossed the border with my new computer, and went straight to Carbonite to retrieve my files stored in the cloud. Then, struggling through Word 2010 which was installed in an introductory version, I worked with some complicated tables and was able to deliver that part of the job by the deadline.
So no, I didn't research the laptop before buying it. And then, I admit, I returned home, reinstalled my old familiar software on the Toshiba, and hit the deck moving *without reading the documentation.* So I guess I deserve the scolding. I do appreciate the helpful comments, and will RTFM before asking any more questions on this forum. ▲ Collapse
| | | | Oliver Walter
Storbritannien
Local time: 11:22
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| Your behaviour was correct | Jul 7, 2012 |
Jessica Noyes wrote:
I do see them now in tiny letters, as Amel and others kindly pointed out. My eyesight is not what it once was.
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I had my next deadline at 1 p.m.
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I do appreciate the helpful comments, and will RTFM before asking any more questions on this forum.
I think that, on balance, you did the right thing by considering it very important to meet your deadline. Suppliers of translation work are probably more interested in having the translation at the time specified than in being invited to sympathize with you if you accidentally damaged your computer.
Another thought: if you'd prefer more visible Function keys, there is a way to achieve that without obtaining a different computer: you can buy a separate keyboard that plugs into a USB port. I am using such a keyboard now to type this posting - it's a Labtec "ultra flat". It's relatively compact and some of the keys are in non-standard locations, but (a) it has a separate row of clearly marked function keys, and (b) it has a separate numeric keypad on the right - this is the main reason why I bought it. I use the numeric keypad to type accented letters (e.g. é (e-acute) is Alt+0233 on the num. keypad) which is more difficult on the laptop's own keyboard (it's a Toshiba Satellite) because the numeric keypad there is an "overlay" on the normal keyboard, activated (and de-activated) by pressing Fn+F11
Oliver
| | | | Nicole Schnell
USA
Local time: 03:22
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In memoriam | I can relate to that. | Jul 8, 2012 |
Jessica Noyes wrote:
I do see them now in tiny letters, as Amel and others kindly pointed out. My eyesight is not what it once was.
Design these days apparently is done by healthy-eye youngsters only who give a dang on functionality and who have not received proper education in industrial design. The F-key numbers on my black laptop keyboard rather resemble dust specks or tiny bowel movements from tiny insects.
Best,
Nicole
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