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Ty Kendall 
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"Nobody trusts pseudonyms". Does that mean you don't even bother to check the person's profile page?? That is very professional...
What would Mark Twain, Lewis Carroll, George Orwell and so many other writers have to say about that? I wonder...
| | | | Ty Kendall
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ONDERWERPSTARTER | Don't shoot the messenger! | May 24, 2012 |
Personally I would investigate the person's page, website etc....but I do think the person who made the comment had a point.
In business contexts, literature and art are other matters, a lot of people would feel wary when faced with a pseudonym as opposed to somebody's real identity.
I fully understand the benefits and/or reasons an individual might want to go by a pseudonym, which is why I said I am ambivalent about them (I'm not totally against them!)...... See more Personally I would investigate the person's page, website etc....but I do think the person who made the comment had a point.
In business contexts, literature and art are other matters, a lot of people would feel wary when faced with a pseudonym as opposed to somebody's real identity.
I fully understand the benefits and/or reasons an individual might want to go by a pseudonym, which is why I said I am ambivalent about them (I'm not totally against them!)...but I can also see the other side. ▲ Collapse
| | | | | Show your real name | May 24, 2012 |
I strongly believe it is always recommended to show your real name and an actual photo in your profile.
That is more trustful, clients feel more confident and even colleagues, myself included, feel more at ease when speaking/writing to a real person and not to a pseudonym that can hide anything or anybody behind.
I also like to see the photo and not a logo or flowers or dogs or any other image.
This recommendations are widely extended in this business.... See more I strongly believe it is always recommended to show your real name and an actual photo in your profile.
That is more trustful, clients feel more confident and even colleagues, myself included, feel more at ease when speaking/writing to a real person and not to a pseudonym that can hide anything or anybody behind.
I also like to see the photo and not a logo or flowers or dogs or any other image.
This recommendations are widely extended in this business.
Yes, I know, you can tell me that you may also invent a "real name" and a "photo". But that's another story.
If you have nothing to hide, no bodies in the closet and want to build up your business and professional reputation, it is convenient to have your name and photo all over the Internet. I certainly do. ▲ Collapse
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neilmac
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| Four legs good | May 24, 2012 |
As a pseudonym user myself, I wouldn't be amused if I was obliged to use my real name. I prefer to use a nickname or avatar for online presence, and have never considered proz a totally professional site anyway - otherwise I probably wouldn't have joined up.
Nevertheless, it's pretty obvious that my username is just part of my real name, as my surname is displayed in my profile. Rather than the name, the telling part for me is when these perps have a profile containing absolutely... See more As a pseudonym user myself, I wouldn't be amused if I was obliged to use my real name. I prefer to use a nickname or avatar for online presence, and have never considered proz a totally professional site anyway - otherwise I probably wouldn't have joined up.
Nevertheless, it's pretty obvious that my username is just part of my real name, as my surname is displayed in my profile. Rather than the name, the telling part for me is when these perps have a profile containing absolutely no info at all other than their pseudonym, as with the last 2 or 3 I had occasion to look up.
FYI, I use my current avatar because I think it's funny and references dodgy translations...
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| | | | | I don't like them... | May 24, 2012 |
What would Mark Twain, Lewis Carroll, George Orwell and so many other writers have to say about that? I wonder...
They'd say those are "noms de plume" and would be surprised to hear that their trusted corner Tobacconist goes by the name "Deadmau5".
Using an anonym while representing or conducting a business is at best ill-adviced and at worst illegal. However, (and herein lies the rub) freelancers do not always fit the mold of sole-propietors running their own businesses; many are still considered just as private individuals both for tax purposes and confidentiality issues depending on their country's customs and laws. It follows then that they would not wish to disclose personal information willy-nilly for all the world to see.
That being said, if I only have to click on your profile to download your CV and learn even your mother's maiden name, and you *still* prefer to use an alias, handle, pseudonym or otherwise funny name, I won't take you seriously. But that's me, and I'm not known for my, umh, sunny disposition.
| | | | | For most of us, it's our company name | May 24, 2012 |
We're selling something that can't be dissociated from us - our intellect, so we are effectively selling ourselves (I'm not sure I like that statement but it's true). Surely, either our photo or our username, or both, ought to reflect that.
Personally, I absolutely HATE it when users and/or outsourcers:
a) choose a username that isn't even a word, AND
b) display a photo of a dog, cat, dragon or whatev... See more We're selling something that can't be dissociated from us - our intellect, so we are effectively selling ourselves (I'm not sure I like that statement but it's true). Surely, either our photo or our username, or both, ought to reflect that.
Personally, I absolutely HATE it when users and/or outsourcers:
a) choose a username that isn't even a word, AND
b) display a photo of a dog, cat, dragon or whatever, AND
c) have not completed the gender field on their profile
How can you relate to someone under those circumstances? How can you even address them if you don't know whether to use "he" or "she"?
Dear clyi52,
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Best regards,
fdlo9
How businesslike is that?
Of course, in this global society of ours it can sometimes be difficult to know how to address people even with the name. My real forename is Shelagh, but when I moved to France I lost count of the number of letters addressed to "Monsieur Shelagh". Nowadays, I reserve Shelagh for contracts and invoices.
Sheila
BTW: I didn't get the idea we were discussing a "nom de plume" here. I think that's a litle different. ▲ Collapse
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| Some are certainly ugly. | May 24, 2012 |
I have only two people filtered in ProZ. One because every posting is "muy urgente", the other because I find their pseudonym mildly offensive.
Pseudonyms have their uses at times. I had reasons for mine which no longer hold, but it hardly seems worth the effort of changing it.
Just noticed Shelagh's posting:
>b) display a photo of a dog, cat, dragon or whatever, AND
Mine was only a dog car mascot and it's gone now ... See more I have only two people filtered in ProZ. One because every posting is "muy urgente", the other because I find their pseudonym mildly offensive.
Pseudonyms have their uses at times. I had reasons for mine which no longer hold, but it hardly seems worth the effort of changing it.
Just noticed Shelagh's posting:
>b) display a photo of a dog, cat, dragon or whatever, AND
Mine was only a dog car mascot and it's gone now
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XXXphxxx (X)
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| Call me old-fashioned but... | May 24, 2012 |
Putting the issues of ‘professionalism’, secrecy and questions about site abuse discussed in the aforementioned thread to one side, I personally feel that revealing your name is a simple matter of courtesy. I’ve never got a job through ProZ, nor do I ever look at the Jobs page; it has never been a marketing tool for me. I reveal my identity and have a profile photo out of consideration to others. There are a multitude of reasons why other networking sites ban pseudonyms and I think they ar... See more Putting the issues of ‘professionalism’, secrecy and questions about site abuse discussed in the aforementioned thread to one side, I personally feel that revealing your name is a simple matter of courtesy. I’ve never got a job through ProZ, nor do I ever look at the Jobs page; it has never been a marketing tool for me. I reveal my identity and have a profile photo out of consideration to others. There are a multitude of reasons why other networking sites ban pseudonyms and I think they are sensible to do so. How comfortable, for example, would some of us feel if we knew that a number of pseudonyms on this site were actually outsourcers? I suspect the answer would be, not very. I do not feel that anonymity is conducive to a community spirit - that's the bottom line for me. ▲ Collapse
| | | | | Personally, I don't have problems with users of pseudonyms | May 24, 2012 |
But I don't like those who use pseudonyms that are not even a name (skz0okor or the like, like Sheila says), anyway I don't care whether they have a photo and what it is (pet, logo and so on).
I have been on this site since ever with my full name, but then, about 10 years ago, when I joined, I thought this was a professional site and maybe it was. Now people know me with my name and so I won't change it.
But I don't think pseudonym users are more frequently KudoZ abuser... See more But I don't like those who use pseudonyms that are not even a name (skz0okor or the like, like Sheila says), anyway I don't care whether they have a photo and what it is (pet, logo and so on).
I have been on this site since ever with my full name, but then, about 10 years ago, when I joined, I thought this was a professional site and maybe it was. Now people know me with my name and so I won't change it.
But I don't think pseudonym users are more frequently KudoZ abusers. I even know many of them who are absolutely professional answerers and estimated colleagues. ▲ Collapse
| | | | Germaine
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| The Web being what it is... | May 24, 2012 |
Ty Kendall wrote:
I've always been a bit ambivalent toward pseudonyms personally, they don't offend me, but I'd probably come down on the side of using real names.
So would I. But the Web is what it is (maybe I read too many horror stories!) and hence, I incline to caution. So, I "cut the pear in half" : I use my first name only. I must say, though, that it's also an old habit: even in my business emails, I only use my first name (the name of the company is in the address) and I know for a fact that most of my clients have long forgotten my family name...
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| | | | | A pseudonym is as a pseudonym does | May 24, 2012 |
I don't give a hoot if someone uses a pseudonym. Anyone who is active on the internet these days in any way is aware that vast chunks of society use pseudonyms, and everyone has their own reasons for doing so.
I used a pseudonym when I first signed up at proz.com, for one thing because I wasn't sure how I felt about being a "known quantity" in this particular venue. I only decided to change my user name when I decided to get a truly professional website together and point people the... See more I don't give a hoot if someone uses a pseudonym. Anyone who is active on the internet these days in any way is aware that vast chunks of society use pseudonyms, and everyone has their own reasons for doing so.
I used a pseudonym when I first signed up at proz.com, for one thing because I wasn't sure how I felt about being a "known quantity" in this particular venue. I only decided to change my user name when I decided to get a truly professional website together and point people there.
If someone misses out on contacts or projects because they use a pseudonym on proz.com (or wherever), then they'll just have to lie in the bed they've made.
As for restricting people to "real names", I personally think that would just be silly. ▲ Collapse
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Theo Bernards (X)
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| Call it coincidence but | May 24, 2012 |
both here and in other places on the internet, abuse seems to have one thing in common: it is more often than not done from behind the safe shield of anonymous pseudonyms. While I understand the desire to maintain some sort of privacy, hidden profiles and pseudonyms have in my opinion no business on serious and professional platforms such as Proz...
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| "Nobody trusts pseudonyms" | May 24, 2012 |
Not many trust real names. I have changed my real name to this pseudonym only some days ago, because having my face and name on a failure made me nervous
I will polish my page and try again, then I will close this proz experience if nothing happens. Maybe there are people who are happy to be here with a funny name and say whatever they think, maybe don't have bills to pay.
good night,
Zaza.
| | | | | to pseudo or not to pseudo .... | May 24, 2012 |
Theo Bernards wrote:
both here and in other places on the internet, abuse seems to have one thing in common: it is more often than not done from behind the safe shield of anonymous pseudonyms. While I understand the desire to maintain some sort of privacy, hidden profiles and pseudonyms have in my opinion no business on serious and professional platforms such as Proz...
If you feel that somebody with a pseudonym is abusive, you can report them.
Also, there are people who are not interested in having their name displayed in the fora or in KudoZ - there are a few reasons for it - and if privacy is what they want, then so be it.
http://deu.proz.com/forum/prozcoms_virtual_conferences/147034-2009_virtual_conference:_user_names_pseudonyms_or_real_names-page2.html
Some of the users with pseudonyms are not interested in the profile aspect or the cheap job board but in KudoZ and fora only. And some of them have made valuable contributions. Let's not forget that!
And another point: I have seen profiles with pseudonym users displaying good feedback from customers. I don't see it as a problem.
In the link above, one contributor makes a good point: she sees her pseudonym as a brand name, and she's not out to hide from anybody or abuse them.
The same could probably be said about user/profile pics.
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[Edited at 2012-05-24 22:12 GMT]
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