Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Dutch term or phrase:
bijgevolg zijn
English translation:
consequently, as a result
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AllisonK (X)
Jul 15, 2004 07:26
19 yrs ago
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Dutch term
bijgevolg zijn
Dutch to English
Law/Patents
Law: Patents, Trademarks, Copyright
jurisdiction
again, a construction which eludes me given the rest of the sentence (could just be an elusive quagmire, who knows):
***Bijgevolg zijn*** als geschillen "ten aanzien van de registratie of de geldigheid van octrooien" aan te merken, de geschillen waarin de toekenning van een exclusieve bevoegdheid aan de rechters van de plaats waar het octroii is verleend, met inachteneming van boevengenoemde elementen gerechtvaardigd is.
A few things are throwing me off here: the "als geschillen" and is it possible that a comma is missing towards the end, between 'elementen' and 'gerechtvaardigd'?
Thanks a bunch!
***Bijgevolg zijn*** als geschillen "ten aanzien van de registratie of de geldigheid van octrooien" aan te merken, de geschillen waarin de toekenning van een exclusieve bevoegdheid aan de rechters van de plaats waar het octroii is verleend, met inachteneming van boevengenoemde elementen gerechtvaardigd is.
A few things are throwing me off here: the "als geschillen" and is it possible that a comma is missing towards the end, between 'elementen' and 'gerechtvaardigd'?
Thanks a bunch!
Proposed translations
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| 4 +3 | consequently, as a result |
writeaway
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| 5 +1 | As a consequence |
Bart B. Van Bockstaele
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vixen
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| 4 +1 | It follows (from this) that |
jarry (X)
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| 4 | Therefore |
Tina Vonhof (X)
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consequently, as a result
imno, bijgevolg is not together with zijn. it's bijgevolg, zijn de geschillen. the construction is a bit awkward just to keep people awake I suppozzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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vixen
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winterjasmij (X)
: Prima vertaling. Overigens staat het origineel in gangbaar juridisch Nederlands [m.u.v. de typo's en een ongelukkige komma ]. Als alternatief had er 'derhalve' kunnen staan.
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I am grinding away on a French text and frankly I don't envy Allison at all with this one. I agree it's everyday Dutch legalese but that doesn't necessarily add to the enjoyment. :-)
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shineda
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks everyone - wish I could have split the points between writeaway and Vixen -whose explanation was very helpful.
Thanks again to everyone else!"
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Bart B. Van Bockstaele
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As a consequence
As a consequence, the ...
geschil = difference
als geschillen = as differences
For me, no comma is missing between elementen and gerechtvaardigd.
geschil = difference
als geschillen = as differences
For me, no comma is missing between elementen and gerechtvaardigd.
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writeaway
: this is patentese-I doubt very much that geschillen are differences-usually it's patent disputes me thinks
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winterjasmij (X)
: eens dat daar eigenlijk geen komma mag staan: want dan maak je van een beperkende bijzin een uitbreidende bijzin en verander je dus de betekenis!
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explanation
'Bijgevolg' means 'als gevolg hiervan', hence 'consequently/as a result' as writeaway already pointed out. Bijgevolg refers back to the previous sentence.
What troubles you is probably the fact that the word order has been reversed. If you read the sentence as follows, it will probably make more sense.
Als gevolg hiervan/daarom zijn de geschillen (disputes) waarin de toekenning .... gerechtvaardigd is, aan te merken als geschillen ten aanzien van de registratie of de geldigheid van octrooien".
So, the type of disputes described in the second part of the original sentence can be regarded as disputes concerning the registration and validity of patents.
And yes, you're right, there should be a comma between elementen and gerechtvaardigd. Furthermore, I assume that 'bovengenoemde elementen' refers back to the text that precedes the current sentence.
Good luck!
What troubles you is probably the fact that the word order has been reversed. If you read the sentence as follows, it will probably make more sense.
Als gevolg hiervan/daarom zijn de geschillen (disputes) waarin de toekenning .... gerechtvaardigd is, aan te merken als geschillen ten aanzien van de registratie of de geldigheid van octrooien".
So, the type of disputes described in the second part of the original sentence can be regarded as disputes concerning the registration and validity of patents.
And yes, you're right, there should be a comma between elementen and gerechtvaardigd. Furthermore, I assume that 'bovengenoemde elementen' refers back to the text that precedes the current sentence.
Good luck!
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winterjasmij (X)
: Mee eens. Volgens mij was de laatste zin leesbaarder als er stond: 'gerechtvaardigd is, met inachtneming van de bovengenoemde elementen.
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Misschien wel, maar misschien vraag je je dan weer af waar dat stukje tekst bijhoort. Ik ben in ieder geval heel blij dat ik geen juridische teksten vertaal. ;-)
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It follows (from this) that
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Note added at 2 hrs 2 mins (2004-07-15 09:29:03 GMT)
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My translation of this sentence would be as follows:
\"Qualifying as disputes involving the registration or validity of patents, therefore, are disputes in which, taking the aforementioned elements into account, the court in the location where the patent was awarded has been justifiably/rightly assigned exclusive jurisdiction.
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Note added at 2 hrs 2 mins (2004-07-15 09:29:03 GMT)
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My translation of this sentence would be as follows:
\"Qualifying as disputes involving the registration or validity of patents, therefore, are disputes in which, taking the aforementioned elements into account, the court in the location where the patent was awarded has been justifiably/rightly assigned exclusive jurisdiction.
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Therefore
Simply 'therefore' will do. The verb 'zijn' belongs with 'als geschillen aan te merken'(in English, this first part of the sentence will have to move to the end).
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