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Glossary entry

Dutch term or phrase:

laskar

English translation:

welding cart

Added to glossary by Lianne van de Ven
Aug 1, 2016 14:02
7 yrs ago
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Dutch term

laskar

Dutch to English Tech/Engineering Engineering: Industrial Rental agreement
Gasflessen waarvan de gezamenlijke waterinhoud meer bedraagt dan 125 liter, met uitzondering van werkvoorraden of op een laskar geplaatste gasflessen of gasflessen die zijn aangesloten aan een verzamelleiding, worden opgeslagen in een daarvoor bestemde opslagvoorziening.
Proposed translations (English)
4 +4 welding cart
4 +1 portable welder; welding trolley
Change log

Aug 15, 2016 11:44: Lianne van de Ven Created KOG entry

Votes to reclassify question as PRO/non-PRO:

Non-PRO (1): freekfluweel

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Discussion

Michael Beijer Aug 1, 2016:
@Textpertise: What you say might be right ... most of the time, but not always. People definitely also use the term "portable welder" to refer to the whole thing.

Furthermore, following your own logic, if you call it a "welding cart/trolley", this might also refer to one without a welder. That is, just the cart/trolley part (aka "wheel kit").

However, having said that, I do think the safest translation of "laskar" in this context is indeed "welding cart/trolley". But as this is a potential glossary entry, I gave both.
Lianne van de Ven Aug 1, 2016:
@Textpertise Thank you for clarifying!
Addendum: that refers to the portable welder issue, not the time stamps. I did assume you did not mean anything with it, but I wanted to clarify the timing issue for others.
Michael Beijer Aug 1, 2016:
@Barend: I disagree. As I see it, it makes no sense to start a discussion with Brian in my own answer, for various reasons.

1. It would be unfair, because he would have no space to actually answer anything I said to him there
2. An answer is an answer and a discussion is a discussion.

My answer space is reserved for: my answer. If I want to discuss sth, I will do it here, where the other person, or people, can actually reply. Also, you say this every time, and then happily use the D-box yourself for discussing things. This discussion area is perfect for discussing things. Why not use it?
Lianne van de Ven Aug 1, 2016:
@Barend Nu hebben wij een interpunctieprobleem.
Barend van Zadelhoff Aug 1, 2016:
@Lianne Sure everyone has their own view.

What you see below is (part of) my view on D-box behaviour.

Nobody needs to agree.
Textpertise Aug 1, 2016:
Not a portable welder The welding cart or welding trolley carries the portable welder. Sometimes, when ordering a welding cart or welding trolley, it is necessary to stipulate what type of welder it is intended to carry. Some trolleys can carry more than one type of portable welder and they typically also carry other bits of equipment besides the welder(s) such as plasma cutters and spare gas. As for Lianne's comment to my agreement to her answer, I was not criticising Lianne for "snatching" anything from me. Only implying that of course I agreed with her answer since it coincided with my own contribution. She can have the points with my blessing.
Lianne van de Ven Aug 1, 2016:
@Barend To everyone their own, I would say. I think the discussion box is perfect for discussion. It is true though that the d-box is harder to read.
Barend van Zadelhoff Aug 1, 2016:
Michael All this stuff below could have been put in an added note to your answer.

Where Brian can see it even more easily than here.

Apart from the other unwelcome consequences , I think it's kind of weird to start a 'discussion' from here with someone who commented on your answer below.

Additionally, by your acting like this other participants will soon lose track of what is happening here
Michael Beijer Aug 1, 2016:
@Lianne: I think "portable welder" is used both to refer to a welding cart with a portable welder in/on it, and to the whole thing, but what do I know?

I sent an email to the GWIT support email address, and one to Graham's old address, but haven't heard back yet. I hope someone will continue the service. People can whine about it all they want but the GWIT has saved me a lot of work on many an occasion.
Lianne van de Ven Aug 1, 2016:
Graham I am sorry to hear about Graham, and no wonder "he" did not reply recently when I had trouble reinstalling the offline GWIT after a computer crash.
It seems that the welding cart could carry the portable welder.
Michael Beijer Aug 1, 2016:
@Barend: I'm not manipulating anyone into anything. I'm just puzzled, that's all. As you can see, our answers crossed, and, we agreed with each other's answers. The early bird gets the worm, so Lianne will get the points, as she should.

There is only a tiny text field to address Brian over at my answer, which is why I did it here in the D-box, which is one of its uses.
Michael Beijer Aug 1, 2016:
@Lianne: I'm sure they're both fine. That's not what's puzzling me. I just don't get this constant criticism of the GWIT. I'd like to see any of us here produce a better technical dictionary of that size on our own. That, and the Onroerend Goed Lexicon, are both great resources for technical subjects, and can be very useful.

Incidentally, the author of the GWIT passed away very recently, which is also why it annoys me a little more than usual when I see people taking potshots at (part of) his life's work. In any case, I thought Graham did a great job and hope that someone will continue his work. He took the ancient Groot Polytechnisch Woordenboek (originally created by G. Schuurmans Stekhoven, if I remember correctly) and added a great number of terms to it. I wonder who will take over now...
Barend van Zadelhoff Aug 1, 2016:
Manipulating the asker into buying one's own answer in the D-box...and see what happens.

Lianne will feel a need to counter(google)balance.

And so on into infinity.
Lianne van de Ven Aug 1, 2016:
@Michael Portable welder seems incorrect. The welding trolley is fine, there are just 10x more ghits for welding cart ;-)
Michael Beijer Aug 1, 2016:
@Brian: some "portable welders":

https://www.google.co.uk/search?biw=1097&bih=609&tbm=isch&sa... (image)

https://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://i72.photobucke... (image)

https://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://i.ebayimg.com/... (image)

Looks like "laskarretjes" to me. A "portable welder" can take the form of a kar(retje), i.e., have wieltjes.

And "welding trolley" is obviously also correct.
Michael Beijer Aug 1, 2016:
@Brian: Care to explain exactly what you disagree with in my answer? Do you disagree with either of my suggested translations (portable welder + welding trolley), or with the dictionary itself?
Textpertise Aug 1, 2016:
welding cart? Could it refer to gas containers placed on a welding cart or welding trolley?

Proposed translations

+4
5 mins
Selected

welding cart

Peer comment(s):
agree Michael Beijer : our answers crossed. cart/trolley – both are fine // not 100% sure, but I think "cart" for US + "trolley" for UK
1 min
thanks
agree Brian Quigley : welding cart is fine for the US, UK, IE, etc. so go with that.
53 mins
Thank you!
agree Textpertise : to my own discussion entry posted before there were any answers.
1 hr
As you can see in the timestamps, Q was asked at 10:02, your discussion entry at 10:07 and my answer in "5 mins" - they coincided :-)
agree Barend van Zadelhoff : "There are still more simple things." What the 'hel' are you talking about? :-)
1 hr
Thanks.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Selected automatically based on peer agreement."
+1
6 mins

portable welder; welding trolley

GWIT:

laskar =
portable welder; welding trolley

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Note added at 8 mins (2016-08-01 14:10:59 GMT)
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PS: GWIT = Groot Woordenboek Industrie & Techniek NE-EN/EN-NE Revised edition 2015-2016 (by G.P. Oxtoby)
Peer comment(s):
agree Lianne van de Ven : ...for welding trolley only...
2 mins
thanks!
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