Jun 5, 2008 17:35
15 yrs ago
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Russian term
склонность к рассуждательству
Russian to English
Medical
Medical (general)
На фоне терапии сохранилась подозрительность к окружающим и склонность к рассуждательству.
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tendency to engage in argumentation
...suspicious attitude and tendency to engage in argumentation...
I suppose it might have been "intricate argumentation" or something like that, but it would probably be going overboard to add a qualifier.
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I'm just trying to think if the medical people use a technical term for this compulsive argumentation, or compulsive hyper-ratiocination (!), or whatever it might be. But I'm not aware of one. I mean what Olga said in her comment (which I saw after posting.)
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Hey, "hyperratiocination" is a word! But, I found it in a description of Conan Doyle literary career, not psychiatry (though there may be some overlap): "The novel marks the beginning of the end of his hyperratiocination phase that had begun with the Sherlock Holmes tales..."
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Several psychology texts use "compulsive internal dialogue," but I don't know how "internal" the behavior your text describes is. "...tendency to engage in compulsive internal dialogue" sounds good, but may be too far afield.
I suppose it might have been "intricate argumentation" or something like that, but it would probably be going overboard to add a qualifier.
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I'm just trying to think if the medical people use a technical term for this compulsive argumentation, or compulsive hyper-ratiocination (!), or whatever it might be. But I'm not aware of one. I mean what Olga said in her comment (which I saw after posting.)
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Hey, "hyperratiocination" is a word! But, I found it in a description of Conan Doyle literary career, not psychiatry (though there may be some overlap): "The novel marks the beginning of the end of his hyperratiocination phase that had begun with the Sherlock Holmes tales..."
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Several psychology texts use "compulsive internal dialogue," but I don't know how "internal" the behavior your text describes is. "...tendency to engage in compulsive internal dialogue" sounds good, but may be too far afield.
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Olga Cartlidge
: also "rambling" i.e. ''tendency to engage in rambling internal dialogue" - such patients tend to ramble and mutter to themselves. ("outbursts of rambling... match the diagnostic" http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:ZYcsBEhSupQJ:www.nytime...
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Right, I agree on ditching "compulsive." Adding meaning that's not in the original is what I meant by "too far afield." Thanks, Olga.
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Tatiana N. (X)
: which is in itself not a medical diagnosis :)
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True. But, we haven't been told if this is a formal medical write-up, or something relatively casual. Thanks.
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tendency to reason/argue
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tendency to argue
I'm semi-guessing as to what рассуждать would mean in this context, but arguing seems the more probably option.
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I don't know about that, it's listed as a known symptom in at least paranoid schizophrenia.
http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:ldp8AwBn-UcJ:www.healths...
There are plenty of other links.
Signs/Symptoms
Schizophrenia usually develops gradually, although onset can be sudden. Friends and family often notice the first changes before the victim does. Among the signs are:
* Confusion
* Inability to make decisions
* Hallucinations
* Changes in eating or sleeping habits, energy level, or weight
* Delusions
* Nervousness
* Strange statements or behavior
* Withdrawal from friends, work, or school
* Neglect of personal hygiene
* Anger
* Indifference to the opinions of others
* A tendency to argue
* A conviction that you are better than others, or that people are out to get you
http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:_a6OkT3heNoJ:www.signsof...
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I don't know about that, it's listed as a known symptom in at least paranoid schizophrenia.
http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:ldp8AwBn-UcJ:www.healths...
There are plenty of other links.
Signs/Symptoms
Schizophrenia usually develops gradually, although onset can be sudden. Friends and family often notice the first changes before the victim does. Among the signs are:
* Confusion
* Inability to make decisions
* Hallucinations
* Changes in eating or sleeping habits, energy level, or weight
* Delusions
* Nervousness
* Strange statements or behavior
* Withdrawal from friends, work, or school
* Neglect of personal hygiene
* Anger
* Indifference to the opinions of others
* A tendency to argue
* A conviction that you are better than others, or that people are out to get you
http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:_a6OkT3heNoJ:www.signsof...
Peer comment(s):
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Olga Cartlidge
: Such patients tend to engage in animated discussions with themselves (e.g. putting a question to themselves, reflecting on the possible answers and then saying "I cannot answer that question....) so "argue" may not be the exact term.
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If that's the meaning of рассуждать in this context, then you are right. To me the meaning seemed a bit different. Thank you for your comment.
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tendency to philosophyze/ brood over
может так и написать - to philosophyze?
Или to brood over, если человек зацикливается на одной мысли
Или to brood over, если человек зацикливается на одной мысли
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proneness to argue (or to reasoning)
just one more suggestion. proneness, by the way, is frequently used in medical terms
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proclivity towards verbosity/soliloquy
my take
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http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/soliloquy
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http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/soliloquy
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Alexandra Goldburt
: In view of Lubuv's note about psychiatry/schisofrenia, verbosity seems to be more appropriate than arguing.
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inclination to philosophizing
Several psychiatric schools are satirized in the process. ...... At the same time he shows his inclination to philosophize
Positive: Inclination to meditative or reflective thinking, philosophizing, analyz-. ing one's self and others. Negative: Extravertive orientation in ...
www.springerlink.com/index/6J872RX1P2K5511V.pdf
Positive: Inclination to meditative or reflective thinking, philosophizing, analyz-. ing one's self and others. Negative: Extravertive orientation in ...
www.springerlink.com/index/6J872RX1P2K5511V.pdf
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disposition to futile judgements / philosophizing
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Овчаренко В.И. Англо-русский психоаналитический словарь. М.: 2003
Овчаренко В.И. Англо-русский психоаналитический словарь. М.: 2003
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Note from asker:
В русско-английском медицинском разговорнике В.И. Петрова 2000 такой же вариант. К сожалению, эти термины встречаются исключительно в русскоязычной литературе. |
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