Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
not found to be medically effective
English answer:
medically ineffective
English term
not found to be medically effective
Thanks
Context (a letter to a doctor):
However, what medication/therapy do you recommend if the Temodar drug, that he is using now, is later NOT FOUND TO BE MEDICALLY EFFECTIVE and the mass continue to get bigger? I wish to have your advice in this matter.
May 26, 2005 00:57: Kim Metzger changed "Level" from "PRO" to "Non-PRO"
May 26, 2005 10:23: Mikhail Kropotov changed "Level" from "Non-PRO" to "PRO"
May 26, 2005 13:40: Kim Metzger changed "Field" from "Other" to "Science"
PRO (3): Sven Petersson, Dr Sue Levy (X), Mikhail Kropotov
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medically ineffective
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[PDF] May 3, 2002 Kenneth L. Hooper, Esquire Mitchell & Hooper 107 North ...
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... irreversible condition would be medically ineffective.” The term “medically
ineffective treatment” is defined in § 5-601(n) as a medical procedure ...
www.oag.state.md.us/Healthpol/hooper.pdf - Ähnliche Seiten
[PDF] January 17, 2003 Anita J. Tarzian, Ph.D., RN University of ...
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... have presented a question about the interplay of the “medically ineffective
... a consulting physician thatattempted CPR would be medically ineffective. ...
www.oag.state.md.us/Healthpol/medicallyineffective.pdf
medically ineffective
inappropriate or ineffective treatment, including CPR.
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Placebos medically ineffective! [July 2001] The news has brought some ...
but there are also placebo non-drug therapies, and even placebo surgery
www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/scraps/scraps01.htm
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Sven Petersson
: Please see my answer!
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I still agree with SwissTell (:>) Thanks for your comments.
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is found later to be medically ineffective, and the mass continue to get bigger
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is found later on to be....
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"...is later found ineffective..."
Patricia
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Balasubramaniam L.
: Yes, the "medically" can also be dropped as drug implies this
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Thanks Balasubramaniam
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Mikhail Kropotov
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Thanks Mikhail!
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Sven Petersson
: Please see my answer!
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(later) found to be ineffective
You don't need 'medically'. You must drop the commas.
'Later' is better placed before 'found'. And add an -s to 'continue'.
47 Google hits for: medicine "later found to be ineffective"
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Balasubramaniam L.
: Sorry, Nick, I didn't see you already had this up here when I put up my answer.
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Well, it is like a double agree, isn't it? A very good day to you, Bala.
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jrb
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Thank you, Jessica.
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Mikhail Kropotov
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Thank you, Mikhail.
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Vicky Papaprodromou
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Thank you, Vicky.
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Kim Metzger
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Thank you, Kim.
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Sven Petersson
: Please see my answer! - Answer: Your other points are valid. I only object against "ineffective".
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I've already seen your comment, Sven, but I'm only making a simple linguistic point about a simple letter to a doctor. Do you also disagree with the other points I'm making?
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was found to be ineffective
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not found to be medically effective
Or compare with the following two statements:
1. I have proof that he is dishonest.
2. I don't have proof that he is honest.
Would you say that those two sentences communicate the same? Obviously not!
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jrb
: but there's no direct reference to the (in)effectiveness of the medication as determined by stats here - I understand it as the case of one patient; also your e.g. is different, how about: he was not (found to be) honest/he was (found to be) dishonest?
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It may have decreased the growth rate (a form of effectiveness), but that is not known. Did you read the reference?
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Mikhail Kropotov
: You raise a good point. However, it is the original wording that is wrong, and not the one that uses "ineffective". It would be best to correct it. /// Another good point. I think I'll agree with you, although I would still prefer to change it :)
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It would be a grave mistake to change it. It is not a translator's task to change the content of the text. "Not found to be effective" is a very clear and well defined standard phrase.
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Drunya
: Good point, but the true difference between "not found effective" and "found ineffective" can apply only to large, statistically analyzed studies. Here is a single case report: a drug has not affected the tumor size. Why not claim ineffectiveneness?
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Would it be fair to claim that your spouse was unfaithful because you could not prove that he/she was faithful? - Same stuff!
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has not been effective/proves ineffective
If the former is true you could say:
... what medication/therapy do you recommend if Temodar, the drug that he is using now, PROVES INEFFECTIVE and the mass continues to grow?
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