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Teresa Borges
Portugal
Local time: 11:28
Medlem (2007)
Engelska till Portugisiska
+ ...
Other Jul 14

I don’t know! I’m nor clairvoyant and pretty terrible at predicting things. Anyway, in 29 years I won’t be around to see it, even if I have very good genes…

Augusto Rochadel
Josephine Cassar
expressisverbis
neilmac
Aline Amorim
Muriel Vasconcellos
Philip Lees
 

Martha Schwan
Brasilien
Local time: 08:28
Engelska till Portugisiska
+ ...
WILL I BE ALIVE? Jul 14

I will not be alive in 2049 to tell the difference.

expressisverbis
neilmac
Teresa Borges
Aline Amorim
Muriel Vasconcellos
Philip Lees
Angie Garbarino
 

Chris S  Identity Verified
Storbritannien
Svenska till Engelska
+ ...
Almost gone Jul 14

It’s hard to see anything other than literary translation needing more than a machine and maybe a quick polish

Edith van der Have
Thayenga
Tanja K
Ian Keith Jones Williams
Kaisa I
Kevin Fulton
Augusto Rochadel
 

Lambert Platini  Identity Verified
Kamerun
Local time: 12:28
Medlem (May 2020)
Engelska till Franska


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Unpredictability Jul 14

Translation has existed for centuries. Therefore, it has changed and still will, in one way or another. I believe things won't be stagnant for the future is full of uncertainties.

Kaisa I
neilmac
Anastasia Andriani
Yetta Jensen Bogarde
 

Egor Shapurov  Identity Verified
Tyskland
Local time: 12:28
Medlem (2013)
Engelska till Ryska
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scarlet future Jul 14

I think it will be quite different, although the demand for technical translations may fall off considerably:


“'The fleeting systems lapse like foam,'” he mumbled what was evidently a quotation. “That's it—foam, and fleeting. All man's toil upon the planet was just so much foam. He domesticated the serviceable animals, destroyed the hostile ones, and cleared the land of its wild vegetation. And then he passed, and the flood of primordial life rolled back again, sweeping his handiwork away—the weeds and the forest inundated his fields, the beasts of prey swept over his flocks, and now there are wolves on the Cliff House beach.” He was appalled by the thought. “Where four million people disported themselves, the wild wolves roam to-day, and the savage progeny of our loins, with prehistoric weapons, defend themselves against the fanged despoilers. Think of it! And all because of the Scarlet Death—”

The adjective had caught Hare-Lip's ear.

“He's always saying that,” he said to Edwin. “What is scarlet?”

“'The scarlet of the maples can shake me like the cry of bugles going by,'” the old man quoted.

“It's red,” Edwin answered the question. “And you don't know it because you come from the Chauffeur Tribe. They never did know nothing, none of them. Scarlet is red—I know that.”

“Red is red, ain't it?” Hare-Lip grumbled. “Then what's the good of gettin' cocky and calling it scarlet?”


Muriel Vasconcellos
Clement Cheung
 

expressisverbis
Portugal
Local time: 11:28
Medlem (2015)
Engelska till Portugisiska
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Other Jul 14

I am a translator, not a fortune-teller with a crystal ball to provide readings or predict the future.

Teresa Borges
Aline Amorim
Joe Ly Sien
Philip Lees
Angie Garbarino
Vera Schoen
 

neilmac  Identity Verified
Spanien
Local time: 12:28
Spanska till Engelska
+ ...
Somewhat Jul 14

Whatever the case, I won't be around to see it, so it doesn't bother me one way or the other.

Teresa Borges
expressisverbis
Philip Lees
Angie Garbarino
Yetta Jensen Bogarde
 

Mario Freitas  Identity Verified
Brasilien
Local time: 08:28
Medlem (2014)
Engelska till Portugisiska
+ ...
Somewhat in some aspects, greatly in others Jul 14

It will be somewhat different than today considering the volume of actual translation work against the volume of MTPE, which will surely overgrow the former methods. However, there will always be those niches where machine translation is extremely incompetent (any text with humor, puns, emotions, metaphors, etc., very specific jargons, and/or with many mistakes/poor language skills of the author).
But it will be greatly different in the number of professional translators in the market. The
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It will be somewhat different than today considering the volume of actual translation work against the volume of MTPE, which will surely overgrow the former methods. However, there will always be those niches where machine translation is extremely incompetent (any text with humor, puns, emotions, metaphors, etc., very specific jargons, and/or with many mistakes/poor language skills of the author).
But it will be greatly different in the number of professional translators in the market. The "peanut" market will become a giant, offering only MTPE, and may ensure continuity of translation courses in college. But the "A" market will be strongly reduced, with few very competent translators with an experience far beyond these courses. These will be highly-remunerated specialists.
What happened to clothes and shoes with the Industrial Revolution was pretty similar. Today we have machines producing 90% of the clothes and shoes, but we still have millions of non-specialized people working in the clothing industry. And we still have specialized designers, tailors, etc. who are very well remunerated, despite being responsible for less than 10% of the clothing in the market.


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Max Jeremiah
Rita Utt
tradu-grace
Yetta Jensen Bogarde
Dan Lucas
 

Max Jeremiah  Identity Verified
Storbritannien
Local time: 11:28
Medlem (2019)
Tyska till Engelska
+ ...
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best Jul 14

The obvious point I'm going to make here is that machine translation is getting better and better. It may reach another impass as it has done in the past, but no one can anticipate the technology that will be available in more than a decade's time.

That said, 2049 may well not be the year in which we see that technology. However, as business people, we need to be forward-looking and prepare for shifts in our industry.

I can only hope that MT won't take over every corner
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The obvious point I'm going to make here is that machine translation is getting better and better. It may reach another impass as it has done in the past, but no one can anticipate the technology that will be available in more than a decade's time.

That said, 2049 may well not be the year in which we see that technology. However, as business people, we need to be forward-looking and prepare for shifts in our industry.

I can only hope that MT won't take over every corner of translation. I do enjoy translation proper and have only just started to get going in this industry.
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Angus Stewart
Michael Wetzel
Anastasia Andriani
Christine Andersen
Yetta Jensen Bogarde
Becca Resnik
 

JEFERSON BRAGA
Brasilien
Local time: 08:28
Engelska till Portugisiska
+ ...


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Kind of different Jul 14

Language is something very deep and human. That means that I don't think that technology will do it with perfection any time soon, but it will surely make the process different.

Jan Truper
Yetta Jensen Bogarde
Becca Resnik
Lais Paiva Siqueira
 

Angie Garbarino  Identity Verified
Medlem (2003)
Franska till Italienska
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Not interested Jul 15

As I will not be alive I have good genes like Teresa but I am not an Highlander

Teresa Borges
expressisverbis
 

TranslateWithMe
Polen
Local time: 12:28
Engelska till Polska
+ ...
no translation business Jul 15

There will no translation business, there will be machine translation proofreading business

 

Paul Adie  Identity Verified
Tyskland
Spanska till Engelska
+ ...
Thoughts Jul 15

Simply saying that this topic doesn't interest you as you will be dead in the future doesn't help younger translators who are in a hopeless situation. I've been working in this field for 14 years, and I just see it getting worse and worse, with tighter deadlines and more automated processes. I would certainly still recommend doing languages at university, but a career in translation? I'd rather highlight the soft skills that language learning provides and investigate what can be done with those ... See more
Simply saying that this topic doesn't interest you as you will be dead in the future doesn't help younger translators who are in a hopeless situation. I've been working in this field for 14 years, and I just see it getting worse and worse, with tighter deadlines and more automated processes. I would certainly still recommend doing languages at university, but a career in translation? I'd rather highlight the soft skills that language learning provides and investigate what can be done with those in another field.

I used to love translation and still do on those uncommon projects where you are given time and appropriate compensation, but these don't come around often in my experience. There still seems to be hope in the German sector; I recently translated some philosophical essays for an appropriate rate.

I'm not all down - I am lucky to work with some great agencies and direct clients, and I have another source of income which I hope to increase.

I wish everyone well on their chosen path, whether you have another 10 years left on this planet or another 80.



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Beatriz Ramírez de Haro
Christine Andersen
Max Jeremiah
 

Justin Peterson  Identity Verified
Spanien
Local time: 12:28
Medlem (2007)
Spanska till Engelska
More proofreading, less translating Jul 15

MT is getting so good ... people will be needed more to proofread rather than translate. Actually, I'm surprised rates have generally not dropped, or output increased - not much - since I started 15 years ago. My output has doubled...and my rate is about the same, but this can't last forever. JRP

Chris S wrote:

It’s hard to see anything other than literary translation needing more than a machine and maybe a quick polish


Michael Harris
Angie Garbarino
 
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